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Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by mozartoz on Sunday July 09, 2017 @09:02PM (#14732685)
Mobile hardware is a nightmare. The best thing we have to cope with it, so far, is libhybris. And I don't see things getting much better.

All we have is Pyra, the incoming Neo900 and semi-closed Jollas with Sailfish.

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by notspanishflu on Sunday July 09, 2017 @09:31PM (#14732776)
There's a "collaborative project to unify the Hardware Abstraction Layer for projects which run GNU/Linux on mobile devices with pre-installed Android" called Halium.

https://halium.org/

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by subway on Monday July 10, 2017 @12:07AM (#14733311)
Complete with the device mfg's unpatched 3.10 kernel.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by audi100quattro on Monday July 10, 2017 @01:39AM (#14733636)
I wouldn't write it off so easily, it makes sense as an open source alternative to google's project treble albeit with parts of android still running underneath. A stable linux HAL on a few widely used devices would make all the upstream dev easier. Even if you are stuck on an older kernel because of a blob driver, it's progress and similar to when you can't upgrade the kernel on your laptop now because nvidia haven't updated their drivers.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by ekianjo on Sunday July 09, 2017 @09:21PM (#14732740)
The Pyra is not going to be released anytime soon, the Neo900 is overpriced... but we do have Plasma Mobile running on a few devices.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by subway on Sunday July 09, 2017 @10:07PM (#14732922)
The Pyra is a helluva lot closer to shipping than the Neo900. A great many of the components have seen production runs already.

I'm not sure Neo900 has even figured out how competently handle their donated funds, let alone how to get a device to production. ( https://neo900.org/funds-transfer )

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by PopePompous on Sunday July 09, 2017 @10:32PM (#14733014)
The neo900 is so late that it doesn't really matter at this point whether it is ever released at all. You'll have to be a pretty hardcore fan to pay about $1000 for a phone with amateur software and circa 2011 hardware specs, partially made with recycled components.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by ekianjo on Monday July 10, 2017 @06:04AM (#14734629)
The Pyra s overheating problems on the sandwhiched SOC have not been resolved at all and now they are even considering adding a fan so late in dev stage. Far from finished I tell you.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by wolfgke on Monday July 10, 2017 @06:31AM (#14734733)
> The Pyra s overheating problems on the sandwhiched SOC have not been resolved at all and now they are even considering adding a fan so late in dev stage.

I'm watching the Pyra project very closely, but I have never heard of these problems. Can you give me a source on this?

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by ekianjo on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @09:08PM (#14749392)
I know several folks who are actively working on the Pyra prototypes in hand and who voiced the exact same concern.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by dTal on Monday July 10, 2017 @02:57PM (#14738668)
The Pyra cannot thermally sustain unthrottled operation indefinitely. Neither can any modern smartphone. This isn't regarded as a problem and definitely no one is considering adding a fan (in fact the cases are slated for mass-production this month).

Where did you get this idea?

Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by ekianjo on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @09:09PM (#14749399)
The cases were stated for mass production a year ago already yet everything gets pushed bacl every now and then for tweaking. I would not bet on anythIng releasing in this year.
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by enthdegree on Monday July 10, 2017 @08:43AM (#14735361)
PostmarketOS is still in it's infancy, but has an active crowd of developers on Freenode https://github.com/postmarketOS
Re:Ten years after first shipping Openmoko Neo1973 by mmjaa on Monday July 10, 2017 @08:35AM (#14735319)
PocketCHIP can also be turned into a cell phone, don't forget. That actually might be the most promising alternative of them all ..