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Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by Rod on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @05:11PM (#1472860)
If universities only sold knowledge, public libraries would be out of business. Ideally, a diploma would be a rough estimate of one's knowledge. Theoretically, a 4.0 student knows more than a 3.0 student... theoretically! Most people do not care about knowledge, they care about a piece of paper that allows them to work, make money, support their families, and finance their vices.

Many of my former EE classmates ended up going into business, consulting, banking... and I am sure it wasn't their expertise on analog VLSI or DSP that landed them the positions, it was a piece of paper with a lot of good grades that, essentially, said: "I can be an obedient worker, I will put in the long hours without questioning the status quo, and I react to carrots & sticks".

If you actually care about knowledge, you can learn a tremendous lot in 4 years, but don't assume that most people are like you, because they aren't. Except if you go to Caltech or MIT, of course, but the girls are ugly and the parties suck at such schools...

Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by chwahoo on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @06:17PM (#1473081)
As a Ph.D. student, I can tell you that the faculty I work around are very serious about teaching. Universities are sincerely in the business of education before anything else. That is what they sell.

While some students may be more interested in getting the diploma, that doesn't reflect on the motivation of the institution.

Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by vecter on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @08:56PM (#1473482)
Actually, the parties are pretty freaking amazing at MIT. Just sayin'
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Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by hga on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @09:27PM (#1473541)
You know nothing about what you speak.

Well, not in the '80s at MIT, at least.

Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by hga on Wednesday June 30, 2010 @10:12AM (#1474854)
Note that the comment vecter and I are referring to was dissing the attractiveness of MIT etc. undergraduate women.

Vecter also has a point at least WRT to Wellesley women; MIT and Wellesley have maintained a strong relationship starting from their foundings, they can enroll in classes at each other's school, there's a regular shuttle bus ... and yes, they're very nice in their own ways.

Re:American Professor to Chinese PhD Student: Go Make Money ... by vecter on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @09:37PM (#1473561)
Wellesley and BU, my friend.