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Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by philippnagel on Saturday July 08, 2017 @02:41PM (#14726634)
Interesting, does anyone know how this is related to storj.io?
Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by wyldfire on Saturday July 08, 2017 @04:28PM (#14727048)
IIUC, this was a fork of storj created by a recently-former maintainer [1]. Strikes me as a great time to liquidate your SJCX (I just did).

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/storj/comments/6llxpn/so_long_frien...

Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by trevor-e on Saturday July 08, 2017 @09:24PM (#14727957)
Yikes, there are a lot of grievances being aired in that thread. To clear up any confusion:

  Yes, I have forked my work on Storj and have given it to 
  Counterpoint to help raise some money to continue to develop 
  it. Please note that this project is not a competitor to 
  Storj as it is fully distributed, there is no business model 
  (because there are no bridges), and it is managed by a 501c3 
  organization.
  Edit: see https://orc.network
Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by kyledrake on Sunday July 09, 2017 @11:05AM (#14730034)
I don't know the Storj project or this situation well, but the timeline of events I've gathered from reading those reddit comments is:

- You acquired some "pre-mine" tokens (apparently with no vesting)

- You pre-sold those tokens before the fundraiser

- You quit the company shortly after

- You then proceeded to slander the company on Reddit (something something "radical transparency")

- You then forked the company's project and started calling it your own. But it's not "competing" because you're using a 501c3 tied to an unrelated hackerspace in Georgia as an umbrella for its fundraising (possibly risking its tax-exempt status).

I think this is a fair question to ask given the circumstances: Is your goal here to create a great open source project, or to damage Storj?

Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by sp0rkyd0rky on Sunday July 09, 2017 @11:46AM (#14730262)
Believe me, I understand how this looks. To answer your questions:

- Yes, early storj employees were given tokens on a schedule related to achieving certain milestones

- Yes, when I felt it was appropriate for my own future, I sold those tokens

- Yes, not long after I sold, I (and others) left

- No, my intent was not to slander, but simply to explain why I have disappeared from the community and why core development has slowed

- Yes I forked a free software project and our hackerspace is providing what's called a "comprehensive sponsorship" which in no way risks 501c3 status

My goal has always been to create a great project and never to harm Storj Labs. Though, admittedly, given the circumstances I understand how it might appear that way. Because of that, can we not turn this thread into what happened on Reddit?

Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by sp0rkyd0rky on Sunday July 09, 2017 @12:58PM (#14730624)
Also I should clarify on the sale of the tokens. This was SJCX, it wasn't a premine, but that token had been trading for years and I held mine for well over a year. I never held any of the tokens that were part of the recent sale.
Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by Dystopian on Saturday July 08, 2017 @03:17PM (#14726772)
It looks like a bunch of their team was part of the Storj team previously - maybe a fork of Storj's core to be compatible with Onion vs Blockchain?

It looks like their website is also based on the same theme.

From a commented out paragraph: <!--<p> ORC is a non-profit free software project sponsored by <a href="https://counterpoint.info">Counterpoint Hackerspace</a>. It's team is composed of previous authors and contributors to <a href="https://bitcore.io">Bitcore</a>, <a href="https://storj.io">Storj</a>, <a href="https://ipfs.io">IPFS</a>, <a href="https://ethereum.org">Ethereum</a>, and <a href="https://z.cash">Zcash</a>. We are strong proponents of anonymity, decentralization, and community and we are building ORC to bring those qualities to the cloud. We are passionate about the work we've done but we <a href="https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/orc-distributed-anony... help</a> to continue hacking the planet! </p>-->

Re:Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud by woodandsteel on Saturday July 08, 2017 @05:28PM (#14727276)
>maybe a fork of Storj's core to be compatible with Onion vs Blockchain?

That is the impression I get from the Storj and ORC faq's. They both are distributed storage networks with files split up in pieces and encrypted. Storj uses the blockchain to make files immutable, ORC uses tor hidden services and zcash to make the file owners anonymous and the servers hidden.