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Re:Airmen who surveil the Islamic State never get to look away by zxcmx on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:16AM (#14717298)
I get it, I think. On the other hand I don't think South Korea would exist without intervention.

My grandfather spent the rest of his life after the Korean war (as an an anzac, artillery, ironically I guess) in a mental hospital, "shellshock" as they called it then. My grandmother and my mother were terrified of him. He got let out a couple of times and always got put back in.

I don't really know what it means to intervene in things, I suppose we would have to talk in some way about the moral value of South Korea existing even if that is unpalatable.

My point I guess is that you are talking about our yes, corrupted set of moral objectives, without maybe considering what happens if we do nothing.

Re:Airmen who surveil the Islamic State never get to look away by Gibbon1 on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:36AM (#14717375)
> I don't really know what it means to intervene in things

Most of the time where I thought maybe intervention was a decent idea, it wasn't. The way I think of it now is you can't throw sticks of dynamite in a flower bed and expect roses. All the things war is damages civil society.

Re:Airmen who surveil the Islamic State never get to look away by zxcmx on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:54AM (#14717443)
Well maybe we shouldn't have intervened. I sort of say "we" in a loose way since family. I dunno.

Maybe it would have been better if they'd just worked it out themselves. That said, do you know any Koreans?

Re:Airmen who surveil the Islamic State never get to look away by Gibbon1 on Saturday July 08, 2017 @05:23PM (#14727244)
It's kinda interesting but the US intervention in Korea wasn't in isolation. Before that was the Japanese conquest. And even before that the Chinese were messing with them.