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Re:Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related... by cbhl on Friday July 07, 2017 @01:10AM (#14716229)
I'd argue that the incumbents wouldn't have thought it possible to build a smartwatch or fitness tracker if it wasn't for these start-ups, though. They're just really good at acquiring and copying.

When the iPhone first came out, the way you measured your heart rate was by putting your finger over the camera on the back of the phone.

Re:Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related... by twblalock on Friday July 07, 2017 @03:38AM (#14716756)
> They're just really good at acquiring and copying.

Right, but that's why the products become commoditized. The inventors get an early burst of success and easy money, but everyone else figures out how to make similar products very quickly.

Even smartphones are commoditized. The iPhone and the Samsung phones are the rare examples of commodity hardware that can beat the competition on the strength of their software experiences. The other companies are fighting tooth and nail in a textbook example of a commoditized market where the profits are difficult to eke out.

Re:Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related... by brlewis on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:57AM (#14717952)
There is competition among fitness trackers. Fitness trackers are not commoditized. There's a difference.

https://ycharts.com/companies/FIT/gross_profit_margin

Re:Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related... by shas3 on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:49PM (#14722829)
> When the iPhone first came out, the way you measured your heart rate was by putting your finger over the camera on the back of the phone.

Actually, no. Pulse-oximeters were always quite cheap. Also, Casio had heart rate (although not continuous) monitors on some of their watches for many years.

Re:Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related... by dan678 on Monday July 10, 2017 @11:08AM (#14736568)
iPhone 2G did not have any heart rate monitoring...