Re:An ‘Uber for garbage’ picks up steam, and $11.7M in Serie...
by duncan_bayne on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:17PM
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I agree with you re. anarcho-capitalism. I think that a state is a prerequisite for capitalism.
But that doesn't mean you couldn't a) pare back the state to the bare minimum functionality (which doesn't include garbage collection, IMO) and fund it voluntarily.
Re:An ‘Uber for garbage’ picks up steam, and $11.7M in Serie...
by dragonwriter on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:26PM
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> But that doesn't mean you couldn't a) pare back the state to the bare minimum functionality (which doesn't include garbage collection, IMO) and fund it voluntarily.
You could do that with the entity called “the state”, but that entity would no longer be the state or government, no matter what it was called. (It might be an arm of the real government, which might consist of entities voluntarily funding the “state” which themselves exercise coercive, in practice, extraction of wealth, or it might be an irrelevant figurehead.)
Re:An ‘Uber for garbage’ picks up steam, and $11.7M in Serie...
by wu-ikkyu on Friday July 07, 2017 @11:47AM
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>However, the ancap vision of no government and everything done by "voluntary" contract has no meaningful basis in reality at this point
What about tribal societies?
Re:An ‘Uber for garbage’ picks up steam, and $11.7M in Serie...
by dwaltrip on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:34PM
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I'm talking about larger groups of humans. Things are very different when you have only a few hundred humans or less. Dunbar's number[1] is an important factor here.
Often times, they are improved by working outside the system itself, it seems. So there are some interesting options for tackling this hard problem. The company mentioned in the article may turn out to be a great example of this.
Governments do come in many forms, with varying size, composition, and effectiveness. However, the ancap vision of no government and everything done by "voluntary" contract has no meaningful basis in reality at this point, as far as I can tell.