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Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @06:47PM (#14706752)
> [Tesla] are poised to control much of the future battery supply

"Chinese companies have plans for additional factories with the capacity to pump out more than 120 gigawatt-hours a year by 2021, according to a report published this week by Bloomberg Intelligence... By comparison, when completed in 2018, Tesla Inc.’s Gigafactory will crank out up to 35 gigawatt-hours of battery cells annually.

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Roughly 55 percent of global lithium-ion battery production is already based in China, compared with 10 percent in the U.S. By 2021, China’s share is forecast to grow to 65 percent, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-28/china-is-...

Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by lacksconfidence on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @07:02PM (#14706849)
It's perhaps worth noting that musk has said:

> I will announce locations for between two and four Gigafactories later this year – probably four.

This puts them in the range of around 175 (35 * 4 new + Nevada) gigawatt-hours annually. They are certainly looking to compete in this space

Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by nsturis on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @07:17PM (#14706948)
It's worth noting though that the estimates for the Gigafactory have been massively revised (although no one seems to pay any attention to it) and will now be producing 100+ GWh of batteries yearly and Musk had stated that they're announcing 2-4 more this year.
Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by wonder_bread on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @06:52PM (#14706783)
Relative to the companies their stock is being compared against I'd say I'm still pretty impressed with their lithium-ion production plans.
Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by frozenport on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @07:53PM (#14707152)
Further, the Chinese government can say "fuck you" (as they have done with other companies) and make it prohibitively expensive to obtain the raw materials used for battery production.
Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by jimmywanger on Thursday July 06, 2017 @01:53AM (#14708418)
Incorrect.

China comes number four on the list of lithium producing companies.

Much of the world's lithium reserves seem to come from South America.

http://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/energy-inv...

Re:Tesla drops 7% after Goldman Sachs says the stock is wort... by frozenport on Thursday July 06, 2017 @06:41PM (#14714549)
You need other minerals, which are collectively termed "rare earth minerals":

Rare earth element map: In 2013, China produced about 90% of the world's supply of rare earth element ores. The USGS Mineral Commodity Summary [2] reported production tonnages for Australia, the United States, India, Brazil, Russia, Vietnam, and Malaysia. Rare earth element exploration and/or development is being done in Canada, South Africa, Thailand, Malawi, and Sri Lanka; however, production from those countries was insignificant during 2013.

http://geology.com/articles/rare-earth-elements/

Further China has already show willingness to ban export of these materials (for example in 2010). At the end of the day the risk to the production of batteries in particular has motivated vulnerable countries like Japan to develop alternative processes:

http://fortune.com/2016/07/12/honda-rare-earth-battery-hybri...