Stopping the Internet of Noise – A useful internet back again

Re:Stopping the Internet of Noise – A useful internet back a... by mirimir on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @02:24AM (#14700300)

> Just this week there was a "Show HN" that combined data from Twitter et al in interesting ways. It was offline less than 24 hours later as all the comments indicated that it was a clear violation of the policies of various content providers.

I missed that. What's the HN URL?

> Why should we care about those policies? Well, because under the CFAA, we've made it a federal crime to send packets to a server in a way that displeases the server's owner.

There are ways to avoid such oversight. Consider, for example, Sci-Hub or TPB or third-generation dark markets. What's hard is doing that at scale. And that, I believe, is a huge niche that's aching to be filled.

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Re:Stopping the Internet of Noise – A useful internet back a... by cookiecaper on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:41AM (#14711209)

>I missed that. What's the HN URL?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14639451 ; looks like the linked site has come back online (for now).

>There are ways to avoid such oversight. Consider, for example, Sci-Hub or TPB or third-generation dark markets. What's hard is doing that at scale. And that, I believe, is a huge niche that's aching to be filled.

The TPB saga should scare all of us, because it shows how far corporate interests will go to remove a thorn in their side. TPB lives on because the swarm refuses to let it die, but its founders were rewarded with a witch hunt led by the top brass in the United States, exile, and imprisonment.

Anyone who wants to take this on: do not expect a more favorable outcome than TPB's founders got, especially if you live in the U.S., where they won't have to threaten sanctions against your homeland to get you brought down.

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Re:Stopping the Internet of Noise – A useful internet back a... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @05:12AM (#14700927)

> There are ways to avoid such oversight. Consider, for example, Sci-Hub or TPB or third-generation dark markets. What's hard is doing that at scale. And that, I believe, is a huge niche that's aching to be filled.

TPB and BitTorrent helps move files. Sci-Hub helps move a particular type of files (scientific papers). So maybe we need a TPB/BitTorrent for data streams? Some way of moving around generalized access to and results from APIs of server platforms?

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Re:Stopping the Internet of Noise – A useful internet back a... by chrisvalleybay on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @07:38AM (#14701565)

The question is whether we're fetching this off of the same APIs i.e. Twitter themselves are using, or if we're scraping it from server-side rendered sites. If we're attemtping to do it via their open APIs we're going to be hitting rate-limits, and probably also face liability. What if there was some service that you could run on different computers, that each had their Twitter API tokens, and then we'd distribute the requests to different hosts, so that it could not be tracked.

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