Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by throwaway91111 on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @11:58AM
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> when noun genders are used for allegoric purposes
Ugh, really? How disappointing.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by int_19h on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @06:27AM
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Just to give an example, consider this short poem:
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Ein_Fichtenbaum_steht_einsam
Now try translating this to a language where the tree names are gendered differently, such that e.g. both are male, or both are female.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by smsm42 on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:41PM
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That is exactly what happened to the Russian translation:
https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%...
In Russian, both words are female.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by int_19h on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:29PM
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Yeah, Russian is the one I was thinking of.
Although it's actually more complicated, because there's more than one Russian translation, and this problem was tackled in different ways. Lermontov just did a straightforward translation, changing the implied meaning. Tutchev and Fet both changed the pine to another tree such that the word is male: cedar or oak (in the latter case, this also required changing the described environment in which it grows).
It also makes translations to other languages hell, when noun genders are used for allegoric purposes.