Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by cbmueller on Monday July 03, 2017 @05:36PM
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It's actually a ligature for "sz" - at least it used to be. You probably won't find many german words that have an actual "sz" in them.
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Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by detaro on Monday July 03, 2017 @05:42PM
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But there are some – e.g. Auszeit. And at the same time, we use ß in locations where it'd otherwise be ss. While it started as a ligature, its current usage doesn't fit that.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by NoodleIncident on Monday July 03, 2017 @06:17PM
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That doesn't mean it's not a ligature. If English still had a "th" ligature, the word "outhouse" wouldn't use it.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by malz on Monday July 03, 2017 @07:03PM
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Interesting claim ... a similar compound word with a present-day ligature is "halfling." TextEdit renders that with an "fl" ligature, but should it not?
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by kuschku on Monday July 03, 2017 @08:18PM
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Is w then still a ligature of vv, and should vve remove it?
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by Symbiote on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @02:32AM
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th in English wouldn't be a ligature, it would be a letter (thorn or eth).
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by cbmueller on Monday July 03, 2017 @05:50PM
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Absolutely true, it's not really its own letter nor is it really a ligature. It's an unique feature of the german language, which is hopefully here to stay...
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by robert-boehnke on Monday July 03, 2017 @05:46PM
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It's more apparent if you look at the long s (ſ) which has since fallen out of favour.
If you squint and your font permitting, ſz should look more like ß.
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by yorwba on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @12:56AM
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Or, even more similar, ſƷ. (Which is long s (ſ) + capital ezh (Ʒ))
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by rb2k_ on Monday July 03, 2017 @05:47PM
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There are tons according to http://www.wordmine.info/Search.aspx?slang=de&stype=words-wi...
FRAKTIONSZWANG FREIHANDELSZONE KONFISZIEREN [...]
A lot of them are combined, but still quite a few 'regular' ones
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by cbmueller on Monday July 03, 2017 @06:12PM
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Here is the full list of non compounded words containing an "sz".
Abszeß - Adoleszenz - Disziplin - Eszett - Faszie - Faszination - Fluoreszenz - Koaleszenz - Konfiszierung - lasziv - Lumineszenz - Obszönität - omniszient - Oszillation - phosphoresziere - Plebiszit - Proszenium - Rekognoszierung - Rekonvaleszent - Szene - viszeral
Most of these actually are of latin origin. My favorite is obviously "Abszeß" - probably the only word in the german language that will show a non compounded co-existence of "sz" and "ß".
Re:The capital sharp S in now part of the official German or...
by filmor on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @01:16AM
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It did, 20 years ago ;)
Nowadays it's written Abszess as the e is short.