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Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by tptacek on Saturday July 01, 2017 @06:56PM (#14679543)
NYC to SFO in 12 hours would be amazing. What train technology gets you that?
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by meddlepal on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:25PM (#14679698)
It's called an airplane and it gets you there in six.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by enraged_camel on Saturday July 01, 2017 @08:20PM (#14679951)
If you take into account ticketing and check in and security and boarding, the actual number is more like 9 or 10 hours.

Add to this the commute to and from the airports and you are looking at 12 hours.

Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by Larrikin on Sunday July 02, 2017 @03:21PM (#14683916)
But then you have to get on an airplane and all the horror that brings with it.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by phire on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:32PM (#14679720)
NYC to SFO in 12 hours is an average speed of 215mph, assuming the most direct route possible.

Practically you would require a top speed of ~250mph, and current current generation of conventional rail trains max out at about 190-210mph. But they could easily do NYC to SFO in 13-14 hours.

The Shanghai Maglev Train reaches a top speed of 268mph (during it's short 7min trip to the airport), so it could do the trip in less than 12 hours. But I'm not sure it's theoretically practical over distances that long.

Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by DrScump on Sunday July 02, 2017 @12:45AM (#14680942)

  NYC to SFO in 12 hours is an average speed of 215mph
With zero stops and no delays.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by vacri on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:38PM (#14679754)
That's a hell of a lot of infrastructure just to link two end-points at opposite ends of the continent. Any train going that route is not going to be an express, and more stops significantly affect average speed.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by bennettfeely on Sunday July 02, 2017 @12:52AM (#14680969)
Getting downvoted for bringing up completely reasonable points?

And who is gonna pay for this magical high speed railroad that never breaks down and is never delayed?

High speed rail in California is costing around $90 million per mile. A perfectly straight line from NYC-SF is 2,572 miles. That's nearly a quarter of a trillion dollars. All to allow costal elites to increase their travel time? Sure.

Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by jonathansizz on Saturday July 01, 2017 @08:17PM (#14679928)
It doesn't exist now. That doesn't mean it couldn't be built; the article was lamenting America's loss of vision and technological leadership, and I was replying to your comment that implied that 12 hours between major cities would be too slow, which in the case of coast-to-coast I disagree with.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by cmyr on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:25PM (#14679699)
doing some napkin math (and assuming you can lay track with a run length about equal to doing this by car) you'd need a train averaging 250mph. Current top average speeds for wheeled trains (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV) are in the 170mph range.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by andrepd on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:22PM (#14679681)
It's ~ 350km/h, can be done with TGV-like speeds.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by tptacek on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:25PM (#14679700)
That's a max speed, not an average.

And again, for this fantastical train, we're earning the privilege of doing in 12 hours what a plane will do in 6.

Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by jonathansizz on Saturday July 01, 2017 @07:40PM (#14679758)
Does that six hours include travel to the airport, check-in, security clearance, boarding, deplaning, baggage collection, and travel from the destination airport back into the city?

If you factor in all this extra stuff, it looks more like 9-10 hours.

Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by ams6110 on Saturday July 01, 2017 @08:59PM (#14680133)
You have most of that with a train too, other than the security clearance (for now). But assuming high-speed train travel became something more than the sideshow operation that is Amtrak today, security screening of passengers would very likely be implemented.
Re:As the U.S. fantasizes, the world builds high speed rail by lorenzhs on Sunday July 02, 2017 @04:29AM (#14681515)
No you don't. As someone who lives in a country with functioning high speed rail and who uses it regularly, let me tell you how it works here:

You go to the train station, which is in the city centre. You use a subway, tram or bicycle to get there. You walk in, go to your platform and enter the train. You place your luggage in the luggage rack and take your seat. When the train arrives at your destination or interchange point, you grab your stuff and leave. Sometime in between, staff will walk the train and check your ticket.

No long transit to/from the station. No check-in, no security screening, no baggage drop-off/pickup. It's a train, not rocket science.