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Re:Dyalog APL 16.0 by throwaway7645 on Friday June 30, 2017 @09:20PM (#14674721)
Closed source is less of a problem for me than the draconian licensing. Paying such steep costs to use in production is a no go for me. I could afford the $1500 personal productivity tool fee for just myself, but then none of my coworkers can use anything I write which probably doesn't help advertising. I really like the symbols more than J, but J ends up being more practical for me. I think if array langs are to take off, kx systems would have to make their software free and just charge for support, but I doubt they'll do that with how much money they're making.
Re:Dyalog APL 16.0 by protomyth on Saturday July 01, 2017 @12:05AM (#14675323)
I still don't get the companies that cannot take the lessons of Smalltalk vendors. It's no accident Borland could sell product and Smalltalk vendors died off with developer and deployment fees.

I still think there is a place for paid tools, but more JetBrain / old Borland then ParcPlace.

Re:Dyalog APL 16.0 by throwaway7645 on Saturday July 01, 2017 @01:39AM (#14675572)
Yea. Ain't nobody wanna pay a deployment fee. Visual Studio charges for the IDE as I understand it which you don't even have to use.