Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by inimino on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:44PM
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Hong Kong is a port city conveniently located (politically and physically) between China and the rest of the world.
To compare a uniquely positioned city like that to the entire US population (which, for example, includes Detroit) is not particularly meaningful.
Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by robotresearcher on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:57PM
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Replace the US with San Francisco or NYC and the list still applies.
Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by inimino on Friday June 30, 2017 @02:12AM
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Now take Manhattan Island, politically and physically isolate it, restrict freedom of movement between it and the rest of the country, and shut the rest of the country off from international trade for a few decades and you'll begin to approach an apples-to-apples comparison with HK.
Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by yodiployo on Friday June 30, 2017 @02:57AM
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Nitpick all you want, d_burfoot is right.
As Manhattan drags the West into the mire, Hong Kong leads the East's ascent.
Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by Retra on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:51PM
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Now compare GDP/km^2:
USA: 1,773,047 USD/km^2 HONG KONG: 63,633,823 USD/km^2.
Huh. Hong kong has almost 36x the GDP density... With comparable GDP per capita. Is that significant?
Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by seanmcdirmid on Friday June 30, 2017 @02:14AM
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Hong Kong is a city state, so it isn't very comparable to another country. HK and Singapore models don't really scale out of their limited scope.
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Re:Once a Model City, Hong Kong Is in Trouble
by arniewatch on Friday June 30, 2017 @12:35AM
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The British did colonize more places. Places like Malaysia, India, etc., that aren't as prosperous and developed as Hong Kong and Singapore. Much of Britain itself isn't as prosperous and developed as Hong Kong and Singapore. Obviously it wasn't a case of the British simply building HK and Singapore. Singapore wasn't a very prosperous and developed place when the British left in the early 60s. It became so subsequently under local elites like Lee Kuan Yew. Hong Kong and Singapore were built by its locals, who were mostly Chinese but also included Indians, Malays, and others.
- Far lower crime and incarceration
- Better education (measured by PISA scores)
- Incomparably better infrastructure (compare beautiful, clean HK subways with laughably pathetic US ones)
- Better health outcomes than the US, 84 year life expectancy vs 79 for the US
- Preserves an incredibly large percentage of its territory for parks (most of HK island is a park)
- No natural resources like the US
- All of this with far far lower taxes than the US (government % of GDP is roughly 14% compared to 38% in US)