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Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by poikniok on Thursday June 29, 2017 @01:50PM (#14665338)
What is wrong with autogenerated code?
Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by reitanqild on Thursday June 29, 2017 @02:04PM (#14665472)
Nothing. There is nothing wrong with code generation in a production setting with "grown up" engineers who uses version control and knows the pitfalls.

The part in parenthesis is just a rant about education and how teachers use notepad and javac to teach Java.

So my point is the only thing students shouldn't use in an IDE is code generation.

Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by copperx on Thursday June 29, 2017 @09:54PM (#14668188)
But going from javac to Maven in CS1 would be insanely difficult; there are many prerequisites before one can use Maven. It may only work in top-tier schools.
Re:TDD did not live up to expectations by reitanqild on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:42PM (#14668505)
I'd say quite the contrary:

If I had been given a zip with a basic pom file and the correct main and test directories I think I'd had a much simpler start.