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Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by pdelbarba on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:24AM (#14664005)
Turbofans have no problem going mach 2.2 [1]. They're not super efficient at that speed but they're better than anything else we have.

What I don't understand is the engine size rule. I'm not aware of any regulation on the size of an engine air inlet....

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Sp...

Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by toomuchtodo on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:31AM (#14664074)
TL;DR This is legislation Boom wants enacted to allow for more relaxed noise emission levels.

"Current engine noise rules for new supersonic aircraft are more stringent than those for the existing subsonic fleet. By setting our engine noise to the same levels as existing subsonic airplanes, we could make our engines produce so much less drag that we would save 20–40 percent on fuel, depending on whether you use this year’s or next year’s rules as a baseline."

Curious if they've hit a wall in their aerodynamic design and need this to move forward.

Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by idlewords on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:54AM (#14664252)
They want the regulations banning overland supersonic flight removed, and are trying to frame it as a fuel efficiency issue rather than the "we will make people's lives miserable with noise" issue that led to the ban.
Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by pdelbarba on Thursday June 29, 2017 @12:01PM (#14664316)
It can be done sanely, but they don't have anything flying yet (was supposed to be May 2017 but that came and went).

Also, don't be fooled. The smaller test aircraft, if it ever flies, will have a much lower sonic boom than the larger airliner. Sonic boom is largely proportional to aircraft weight.

Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by Avshalom on Thursday June 29, 2017 @02:59PM (#14665968)
Reading between the lines it would appear that they are so far from having anything that flies that they're still willing to redesign their engine and presumably plane as a result.

(And yet they have the hubris to talk about how much a ticket will cost)

Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by dragonwriter on Thursday June 29, 2017 @01:41PM (#14665247)
> They want the regulations banning overland supersonic flight removed

True, but

> and are trying to frame it as a fuel efficiency issue

No, they are trying to frame the changes they want to engine noise regs as a fuel efficiency issue; that's a separate rule change from (in the same legislation as) the one removing the overland supersonic flight ban.

Re:Lee-Gardner Amendment would reduce supersonic fuel burn by dragonwriter on Thursday June 29, 2017 @01:39PM (#14665215)
> What I don't understand is the engine size rule.

It's not a size rule, it's an engine noise rule which ends up (per the article, I don't know enough about the relevant fields to confirm this) requiring wider engines which end up producing more drag.