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Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by bluedino on Thursday June 29, 2017 @10:45AM (#14663700)
If you have dynamite and want to take a windfarm out, you're better off taking out a few towers in a 138kV transmission line or the substation the turbines all connect to.
Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by bluGill on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:19AM (#14663970)
Depends on how long you want to take them out. A couple towers or a substation is easy to replace, they will have a temporary tower up in a few hours. They have this ability because a tornado could take out a few towers. Likewise substations fail once in a while.

If you take out one wind turbine: they break often enough that it doesn't matter. They assume a few will break for mechanical reasons and that is accounted for, it hurts profits a little but probably less than their worst case failure budget has planned for. They will fix it sometime in the next few years. If you take out a lot of wind turbines, things get hard, replacing each one will take time: factories are generally booked months in advance and crews that can do this job is also not readily available.

Don't forget though that everything you do creates an effect. Take our wind turbines and they will beef up security. You are taking the risk that they notice your activities and put in some security system that catches you.

Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by Caveman_Coder on Thursday June 29, 2017 @04:38PM (#14666674)
> they will have a temporary tower up in a few hours.

This entirely depends on location. A lot of major WECC locations are remote and would take a crew a long time to get there.

> substations fail once in a while.

What do you mean by this? Usually substations are fed from diverse lines, so a single incoming line outage, or XFMR (usually N+1) failure is able to easily be absorbed.

Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by bluGill on Friday June 30, 2017 @12:26PM (#14671754)
The transformer fails in a "ball of flame". The "flame" only lasts for a second (probably just a spark?), but it is visible for miles.

I don't know how much redundancy they have. I know that my power went out for a few hours a couple months ago when a substation failed. I've seen the "ball of flame" (probably just a spark, it only lasted a second) that knocked out power for a small city.

Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by jws on Thursday June 29, 2017 @10:57AM (#14663793)
Dynamite is not required. In the 1970s in Minnesota angry farmers destroyed about a dozen transmission towers with nothing but wrenches. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CU_project_controversy
Re:Researchers Found They Could Hack Wind Farms by rm_-rf_slash on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:13AM (#14663924)
>Protesters covered themselves in pig manure and asked the police to arrest them.

Now that's a piece of civil disobedience history I'm never gonna forget.