News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by mmjaa on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:05PM (#14657227)
To me, these stories are a) vital, and b) dis-heartening, and c) demonstrative of the fact that we need to continue to build better, open and secure, operating systems and tools for end users.

I think there is definitely something to be said for the fact that if the CIA is doing this, then criminals are too - since the fine line between what the CIA does and what a criminal does is simply, a sheet of paper with someones signature on it.

Most of all, however, I think its very important that we continue to reveal these secrets. For those of us not living under the CIA's nefarious shadow, it is good to see them get their secrets revealed.

Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by norgie on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:28PM (#14659492)
> For those of us not living under the CIA's nefarious shadow

The CIA's mission is foreign intelligence meaning they operate outside the US. Since it sounds like you're not in the US, you are far more likely to be targeted by the CIA (still very unlikely unless you work for a government) than people living in the US.

Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by mmjaa on Thursday June 29, 2017 @03:34AM (#14661449)
The CIA doesn't work for me. It works for Americans. Not everyone is happy with having an agency for which their sovereign is not responsible, nevertheless influencing their lives in a big way.
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by ionised on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:55AM (#14664262)
> The CIA doesn't work for me. It works for Americans.

Correction, it works to maintain the current status quo.

Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by mmjaa on Thursday June 29, 2017 @01:00PM (#14664839)
Whatever - the point is, not everyone is as enamoured with the CIA and its purpose, as most Americans appear to be ..
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by ionised on Friday June 30, 2017 @05:14AM (#14669491)
Agreed.

The problem I have is that with the same mindset I should be able to say that about GCHQ/MI5/MI6 (intelligence services of my own country) but I cannot in all good conscience support a lot of what they do.

It seems like they exist more to protect the interests of the landed elite, the wealthy, privileged and powerful than they do to protect the nation and its people. The latter is just misdirection.

Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by mmjaa on Sunday July 02, 2017 @12:49PM (#14683227)
I agree with you, completely. Secrets are the basis of class disorder.
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by willstrafach on Thursday June 29, 2017 @09:39AM (#14663174)
The intelligence services of your country most likely have the same technologies available.
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by willstrafach on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:39PM (#14657525)
I am curious as to what you believe the CIA is supposed to be doing?
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by mmjaa on Thursday June 29, 2017 @03:35AM (#14661455)
The CIA is supposed to be projecting Americas' force around the world, covertly, for the good of the American people.

This is not necessarily good for humanity.

Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by oval-atom on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @05:38PM (#14658719)
I doubt they have a clue.....disillusioned into idea that we are in a utopian world.
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by pizza on Thursday June 29, 2017 @02:44AM (#14661260)
The CIA itself has a utopic mission
Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA's Elsa: a geo-location malware for ... by ionised on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:56AM (#14664270)
So they are as naive and shortsighted as they seem.