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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by SamReidHughes on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @01:37PM (#14656270)
That isn't true. If you shrink a metropolis the traffic moves slower and the roads take up more relative space, and more people live close to freeways. There is a relatively small time advantage when you squeeze a city's transportation system, and if you want quality air you do way better in a suburb or exurb than downtown.
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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by closeparen on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @07:51PM (#14659617)
New housing in walking distance of likely destinations (or high quality transit) generates fewer vehicle trips than housing that requires driving everywhere.

Who cares how much relative space the roads take up?

I agree, you personally will experience better air in the suburbs. Everyone in aggregate will experience worse air due to your drive between the city and suburbs.

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by SamReidHughes on Thursday June 29, 2017 @11:32PM (#14668473)
> Who cares how much relative space the roads take up?

That's a variable that affects travel time (because even moreso less stuff within a given radius).

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by closeparen on Sunday July 02, 2017 @02:13PM (#14683640)
I'd argue that shaving a few hundred feet of road off your journey is minuscule compared to shaving 20+mph off your speed.

The most bizarre thing about the Narrow Streets proposal is, how they hell are bikes or buses supposed to work at reasonable speed if the streets are choked with them (and pedestrians, who would apparently have right of way on the same paths as bikes and buses, rather than parallel sidewalks).

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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by SamReidHughes on Sunday July 02, 2017 @05:18PM (#14684401)
I'm not talking about any narrow streets proposal, just highways and major roads taking up more relative width as something to account for.
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