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Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by stdbrouw on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @01:25PM (#14656150)
Actually, and sadly, very few newspapers still have ombudsmen.
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by chishaku on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @01:33PM (#14656229)
Like the NYT, which just eliminated their public editor role.
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by pas on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @01:37PM (#14656283)
Oh. Did they give any reasons?
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by mtVessel on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:03PM (#14656597)
"Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"

Although, what Sulzberger actually said was:

“Our followers on social media and our readers across the internet have come together to collectively serve as a modern watchdog, more vigilant and forceful than one person could ever be,” he wrote. “Our responsibility is to empower all of those watchdogs, and to listen to them, rather than to channel their voice through a single office.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/business/media/new-york-t...

Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by misterhtmlcss on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:27PM (#14657426)
That's funny, because I don't see the logic there beyond it sounding superficially like a savvy decision to cut costs and leverage the community, however the role shouldn't really be a single person in the modern era, but an advocate collating voices and ensuring the editors and writers are informed by an opposing (or descenting) voice within their ranks or you risk a form of 'group think', which I believe probably had more to do with the Guardian's error than anything else.
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by Karunamon on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:06PM (#14656634)
A world-weary cynical read:

"Our followers on social media and readers can be ignored a lot easier than a guy in our office, so when complaints come in, we can simply sweep them under the rug"

Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by obmelvin on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @08:05PM (#14659680)
I would greatly disagree with that. The rest of the world can see complaints on social media, whereas no one knows if the guy in the office is being ignored.
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by pas on Thursday June 29, 2017 @05:59AM (#14661990)
The designated commissar could also use twitter too.
Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by obmelvin on Thursday June 29, 2017 @05:52PM (#14667163)
Eh, one person's twitter can be ignored.

These days people get so worked up on social media anytime a brand does anything (i.e. people getting mad a cinnabon for their carrie fisher bun pic - http://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/12/27/a9c2ac0c-3...). I think social media can serve as a watchdog for more important issues, too.

Re:Flawed reporting about WhatsApp by Freak_NL on Thursday June 29, 2017 @02:35AM (#14661221)
The New York Times retiring their ombudsman was high profile news, but is there actually a trend of (quality) newspapers removing that role from their staff? The NYT move was widely criticised by its peers (not just by the other ombudsmen, but by the newspapers themselves in their respective editorials).