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Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by dijit on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:06AM (#14653699)
When systemd first landed in Fedora 16.

You could use syslog or journald (or both. But journald was optional)

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Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by icebraining on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @09:19AM (#14653791)
Journald didn't even exist when Fedora 16 was released, so how could it be optional?

Meanwhile, from the first public document of journald[1], it was always designed as an indispensable component of systemd.

[1] https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1IC9yOXj7j6cdLLxWEBA...

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Re:Ubuntu Systemd Vulnerability by dijit on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @02:23PM (#14656839)
I have strong memories of installing it on fedora 16 long before the 17 release was announced. I don't know about intent but I was a very avid fedora user and I was pro-journald before it was forced down my throat.
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