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Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by khuey on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @06:08PM (#14649988)
Except it doesn't really work that way. Strict zoning and building rules prevent the built environment from changing, they don't prevent the people from changing. Witness the decried gentrification in San Francisco, most of which has built very little over the past several decades.
Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by epistasis on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @06:56PM (#14650314)
It would seem that strict zoning and building rules hasten and encourage gentrification. Without more density, and with more people wanting to live in the same area, rents rise more and the ones who win out are the wealthier renters. If some buildings were replaced with more density, then the housing supply reaches further down the demand curve to those with less money.
Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by closeparen on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @11:06PM (#14651428)
In the absence of rent control, you're right. To stop a neighborhood from changing, you need both low density zoning (minimize incentive to tear down buildings) and ironclad rent control (make it impossible to dump existing tenants in favor of wealthier ones in existing buildings).

San Francisco has not managed the ironclad rent control part, and as you'd expect, landlords found various ways to get rid of low-rent tenants in favor of high-rent tenants. When you have the ability to drag your feet on repairs, the mechanism is obvious. When your tenants are poor and you're constantly forgiving them for being late/short with the rent, all you have to do is stop doing that.

Zoning by itself is just destructive. Zoning and rent control could theoretically work, though I'm not sure it ever has, because landlords are so much more clever about getting rid of tenants than cities are about designing rent control laws.

Re:Despite money and effort, homelessness in SF as bad as ever by khuey on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @11:00AM (#14654691)
I don't think it's really a cleverness issue. It's that "ironclad rent control" is an expropriation of private property that our legal system would not permit.