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Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by komali2 on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:18PM (#14648991)
I had to catch myself from saying "what the fuck" out loud.

I don't want to be rude to you, but I find this to be hilarious:

>Such a service has no real hope of taking the place of someone with actual cooking skills who knows you well and will tweak the recipe to your preferences, possibly without you even having to explicitly ask or remind her.

Sounds like a job for a... maid! Which really puts a delicious spin on the odd, mildly sexist suggestion that "lack of wives" is a problem that needs disruption.

Or, you know, there's another person that "knows you well and will tweak the recipe to your preferences," namely, yourself.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by Mz on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:24PM (#14649038)
I'm a former homemaker and full time mom. You have failed in your stated goal of not being rude to me.

I am merely describing the problem space. If people wanted to, you know, tweak it themselves, then there would be no food services of any kind, not restaurants and not take out food and not meal-in-a-box delivery services. We would just all cook for ourselves if everyone just loved doing that and didn't want this somehow magically taken care of by some other means.

Everyone needs to eat. It is a requirement to remain alive. But most people don't want to spend all their time on this vital activity. They want a good meal, but hassle-free or low hassle.

That isn't a criticism. I don't really like cooking either. It is just an observation about reality.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by ABCLAW on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:43PM (#14649225)
I don't think your reasoning in the second paragraph is accurate. People aren't a uniform congealed mass of preferences that match your own.

You don't like cooking. I do. It is really fun for me. I enjoy cooking new things and learning new techniques. I enjoy learning new ingredients and new dishes. I, however, hate going grocery shopping and looking up new recipes. This service deals with the issues I have.

What's even better? It's quality shared time between me and my girlfriend. She'll deal with some of the steps. I'll deal with others. In total, we put in maybe 15 minutes of work, and wait another 15 minutes before the dish is done. Generally this is faster and less effort than going out to eat for the quality of food received. At the end of it all, we have a delicious meal we both put together, and more knowledge about how to cook in general, which we both enjoy.

Hence why these food services are great in my household, and terrible in yours. We're attempting to solve different problems. I want to cook in a hassle free manner. You want to eat in a hassle free manner. They aren't the same thing.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by Mz on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:48PM (#14649280)
People aren't a uniform congealed mass of preferences that match your own.

Generally speaking, when people make generalizations, they are not assuming that 100% of the world will exactly fit their statements 100% of the time. Saying that it is generally true does not presume that people like you do not exist. It just presumes that you are probably in the minority.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by ABCLAW on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @05:32PM (#14649669)
Sure, but if you do that, then your following statement doesn't actually hold true.

>If people wanted to, you know, tweak it themselves, then there would be no food services of any kind, not restaurants and not take out food and not meal-in-a-box delivery services.

Turn that statement into one about a minority's preference, and suddenly you discover an underserved market that likes preparing their own food. Kind of like the poster you replied to was stating. Kind of like everyone in the thread that has a different problem than you did that this service is a solid solution for.

Edit: I won't extend this comment chain any further. Please look at the comment I critiqued. I think you've glossed over your own statement.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by Mz on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @05:38PM (#14649728)
I didn't write the article with the headline about how this market is facing a "slow-motion trainwreck." I merely gave my opinion as to why this is an inherently difficult problem space. That's it.

It is pretty ridiculous for you to act like I think there is zero market because I wouldn't buy it. That amounts to twisting my comments in a way that makes it very hard to engage in good faith.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by Smaug123 on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @03:48AM (#14652392)
You did say you think there should be zero market, whether or not you intended for that to be something you said. Specifically, you said that restaurants should fill the gap served by meal-in-a-box services entirely. The interpretations in this thread have been reasonable. (No point arguing this with me; I'm looking at it from the outside, some hours later than it happened, and won't reply to this comment.)

> If you can afford a meal-in-a-box service, why would you not just go to a restaurant where the wait staff will do a decent job as a substitute for your own live-in cook previously known as The Wife?

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by dragonwriter on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @05:27PM (#14649620)
> If people wanted to, you know, tweak it themselves, then there would be no food services of any kind,

Er, no. A desire for customization does not imply that a baseline around which to customize is not a viable product.

> We would just all cook for ourselves if everyone just loved doing that and didn't want this somehow magically taken care of by some other means.

Meal kits are cooking for yourself. They simplify shopping, inventory management, and recipe discovery, but the customer still does all the cooking, and, depending on the kit, most of the prep other than portioning out bulk goods to the quantities needed.

Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by Mz on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @05:43PM (#14649766)
You seem to routinely reply to things I say in a manner that just sounds like you think I have an IQ of 70 or something. I can't fathom why you do this because you seem to generally participate in good faith and try to argue based on logic, but I wish it would stop.
Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by FussyZeus on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:24PM (#14649036)
I mean, I get what he's saying. I do most of the cooking around our house, and do tweak recipes to suit my woman's tastes. Yes, could've been phrased better but I think he's onto something in terms of the dedicated homemaker in general of either sex becoming a bit of a reach for most households to have.
Re:A Slow-Motion Trainwreck Facing the Meal-Kit Industry by lifeformed on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @05:49PM (#14649819)
I think you're taking what he's saying the wrong way. He's just describing how culture has shifted, not saying that it was the "correct" way.