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Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by closeparen on Monday June 26, 2017 @11:07PM (#14642288)
... how is that not being a NIMBY? You want fewer homes in your neighborhood (1 vs. 2 on a lot), on aesthetic grounds.

What else did you think anyone meant by NIMBY?

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by defen on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @02:38AM (#14642973)
I live in a 150-unit apartment building that houses about 300 people, on the edge of the neighborhood. I have no financial stake in the outcome either way, I just don't want to see something beautiful destroyed. I would much rather they put up another 150-unit building than tear down 75-100 houses to achieve the same outcome.
Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by closeparen on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @10:15PM (#14651244)
Okay, fair.

Usually it seems that people who are moderately opposed to two houses on a lot would be rioting in the streets over a 150-unit building. But I agree, it's a better way to achieve the same outcome.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by dionidium on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @03:05PM (#14648255)
What do you think NIMBY means?

The term originated to describe opposition to the placement of unpleasant developments that wouldn't be objected to if placed elsewhere (think landfill or meat-packing plant).

It now roughly refers to anyone opposing greater density in urban environments. (This is different enough, already, that we should probably coin a new word for it.)

You're using it to mean -- what? -- opposition to any development on aesthetic grounds?

We're pretty far afield, now.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by closeparen on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @10:42PM (#14651346)
Opposing any level of density or capacity beyond single family houses with low lot coverage in your (urban/inner suburban) neighborhood is straight down the middle of any definition of NIMBYism I've seen in recent use. Particularly when you live somewhere that normal-sized houses go for $800k (!).

I'd also (tacitly) oppose large single family homes replacing small single family homes, but that's because I'd prefer to see even larger apartment/condo buildings. When each project is so politically expensive, it's important to get as many new units as possible out of each one. (Looks like defen is on board with this idea).

When two single family homes on a lot is encroaching on a community's threshold for permissible scale, usually a large apartment building would be out of the question. So I'll take what I can get.

At a 2:1 or better multiple (new units : demolished units), these conversions might be decent. You could increase a city's housing stock 2x that way, and it'd be a less drastic change than dozens-hundreds of skyscrapers needed for the same effect.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by jessaustin on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @12:33AM (#14642598)
HN has featured many more extreme examples of NIMBYism.