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Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by chadgeidel on Monday June 26, 2017 @06:01PM (#14640752)
It's a good question. I'm not well-versed enough in design theory to answer, but I'll offer my opinion anyway. :-)

The fins on a 1959 Cadillac are well-integrated (design-wise) on the car. It's a theme of the era and the car was designed from the ground up to look like a jet or a rocket.

The design elements in a McMansion are not well integrated (see the posts on the site) - they are added on as an afterthought because "nice houses have these things". There is no coherent style or design.

If I had to guess, I would say the "gaudy" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaud%C3%AD !!) design of a Cadillac will be well-regarded for at least 100 years. I don't think the design of McMansions will ever be well-regarded.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by InspiredIdiot on Monday June 26, 2017 @08:08PM (#14641497)
It doesn't appear that Antoni Gaudí had anything to do with the etymology of the term "gaudy" as it was in use hundreds of years before he was born.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gaudy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaudy

I couldn't help looking it up because the idea that a single artist could stand out so much to be singularly associated with that term was tempting. I expect that is why such a false association persists.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by magic_beans on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @11:18AM (#14646170)
Gaudí may not have been the origin of the word "gaudy", but perhaps he was an example of nominative determinism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism

;)

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by chadgeidel on Monday June 26, 2017 @09:30PM (#14641899)
Oh! Thank you for that!
Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by cat199 on Monday June 26, 2017 @06:12PM (#14640814)
Also:

50's US cars were also exceedingly well built using high quality materials and mostly/nearly by hand..

which goes against the 'cheap / phony materials' ethos critiqued in mcmansions..

that said, plenty of people I'm sure critiqued the 'chintzy' 50s asthetic and increased use of plastics in the day..

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by randcraw on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @03:20AM (#14643141)
I'm no designer either, but I think Caddy fins were great examples of baroque flourishes -- excessive extensions to past design motifs that give a heightened sense of motion or flow or accent. Future designs can't build on such flourishes. They were stylistic endpoints, like the accents in Art Deco, but often use a coherent set of design principles within a time period and thus create a harmony of their own.

But McMansions lack common flourishes or motifs. They share only size and a brutal ostentation intended only to say, "I have money, and taste be damned."

The best exposition I know on the suburban blight AKA McMansions is "The Geography of Nowhere" by James Howard Kunstler.

Re:Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts by criddell on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @09:39AM (#14645248)
I'm in the Stewart Brand camp that is pretty much built on the taste be damned ethos. The idea of a McMansion appeals to me because I'm not afraid to move walls and plumbing to make the space exactly what I want.