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Re:Russia threatens to block Telegram by out_of_protocol on Monday June 26, 2017 @01:19PM (#14638531)
Ok, valid argument: telegram servers DO receive and store plaintext version of every conversation done (except private chats), while, as a reference, whatsapp don't do this, applying end-to-end encryption by default. So, basically, hack telegram servers -> you have all the convos. Bribe some employers, locate and grab their servers -> see above. Also, how would you know they're not connected with some 3-letter agency already?
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Re:Russia threatens to block Telegram by reitanqild on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:46AM (#14643449)
FWIW - I have no way of verifying this - Telegram says they try to work around this by (IIRC) :

- Using some kind of crypto with multiple keys

- These keys are located in multiple independent datacenters in independent jurisdictions

According to what I read this was supposed prevent leaking of user data just by bribing/coercing/etc or suing any Telegram employee or datacenter provider.

As I've mentioned before I don't use Telegram for security, I use it because

1. Facebook failed its Whatsapp acquisition so badly

2. It is way more user friendly

Also keep in mind that when I left WhatsApp for Telegram WhatsApp still didn't have e2e.

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