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Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by ajmurmann on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:22PM (#14637951)
Do you care to elaborate? If someone is willing to pay the additional price to get more personal space why is that bad? This doesn't necessarily mean that people will be kept from flying altogether. If this is successful airlines will likely just increase capacity rather than keeping potential customers on the ground.
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by MIKarlsen on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:28PM (#14637999)
I think the concept of letting people with enough money get to do whatever they want is a bit unsettling.
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by strictnein on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:32PM (#14638028)
> "Do whatever they want"

People with enough money can already just buy a second seat or pay for business/first class.

This actually opens up increased comfort options for those with less money.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by shostack on Monday June 26, 2017 @01:04PM (#14638361)
The problem historically is that these increased options tend to go hand in hand with efforts to crappify the experience for those not paying extra in an attempt to "encourage" them to pay more. See "economy plus" ie. "Cram in more seats to shrink seat space except for a few that will stay the same that we can charge more for".

This is also a part of the game to avoid listing high fares on affiliate travel sites but then charging more through upcharges like this in an attempt to mask overall increases to average fare prices.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by pembrook on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:35PM (#14638061)
So basically you find market economics is unsettling?

If it makes you feel any better there's not a single flourishing command economy anywhere in the world right now. China, Cuba, etc. are all moving towards market systems for a reason.

If history has taught us anything, it's that humans will create power gamification in all situations. The market system is the only way to harness those instincts to a somewhat greater good.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by kaonashi on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:43PM (#14638128)
Yes. Markets are a means, not an ends. When markets undermine basic fairness, they are gross.
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by spuz on Monday June 26, 2017 @01:00PM (#14638312)
So are you against business and first class? Without those customers paying 10x the economy fare, average folk like you and me would never be able to afford to fly around the world. You should be very careful when deciding what kind of markets are good and which are "bad".
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by kaonashi on Monday June 26, 2017 @01:44PM (#14638751)
That's how the financial arrangements work out, but those are quite malleable.

Planes are perfectly capable of flying without first class sections.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by deadbunny on Monday June 26, 2017 @03:17PM (#14639449)
Each section of most planes bring in the same amount of money. So say you have 100sqft for seats the price is basically determined by 100sqft/seats. So while first class costs 10x much the 15 people in first bring in the second revenue as the 150 in economy.

The other consideration is that you'll likely not fill an entire plane if totally filled with economy seats so the price for everyone on an all economy flight would have to pay significantly more per seat to make up for the 60-80% capacity on basically 80% of routes.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by spuz on Monday June 26, 2017 @02:25PM (#14639070)
I think you give markets way less credit than they deserve. Check out http://wonderfulloaf.org and see if you are persuaded.
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by kaonashi on Monday June 26, 2017 @10:36PM (#14642167)
Don't think there's anything wrong with markets per se, but implementation details are important.

Markets where some players have considerably more coercive power than others don't tend to produce good outcomes.

Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by function_seven on Monday June 26, 2017 @01:27PM (#14638615)
I’m struggling to see your point of view here. My neighbor has a much nicer car than me. Is it unfair that she used more money to purchase a better car? What distinguishes my example from the ability for passengers to pay for more space on a plane?
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by thedarkproject on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:26PM (#14637978)
I agree with you mostly, but I would like to bring up the ecological concern of flying with empty seats. It increases the avg carbon footprint per passenger.
Re:Etihad allows flyers to bid to keep adjacent seats empty by dnh44 on Monday June 26, 2017 @12:32PM (#14638033)
I assume this is only in the case of a non fully booked flight. But I didn't read the article.