Re:Ask HN: Are you programming server-side web apps without ...
by petepete on Monday June 26, 2017 @02:58AM
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I've written many projects frameworkless, my current project included. I love the extra flexibility it gives and that I only add what I need. It's not a black and white issue.
Not all from are as magic as you say, and if they were such a pain they wouldn't be in such demand. For most people they provide a helping hand.
You might be expert enough not to need one but most people, myself included, quite like having the foundations laid and just concentrating on functionality.
Using a framework is optimizing for the first few months of development and shooting yourself in the foot later on. That especially includes the time spent either finding devs who are very competent with the framework or training someone.
If you just use libraries properly, you can hire anyone (even someone who doesn't know the language at all) and just throw them into the code base. They can follow the code and actually understand it without googling every 2 minutes. There's no magic.
Have you tried both approaches long-term on multiple projects? If you haven't, how can you know that frameworkless is more work?