Re:Wikileaks reveals CIA’s ‘Brutal Kangaroo’ toolkit for hac...
by schoen on Saturday June 24, 2017 @02:59PM
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Although I don't care for your rhetoric and I wish you could tone it down a bit, I think you raise interesting and important points throughout this thread which I hope people can discuss further.
I am someone who is clearly in the camp that you criticize (in fact, more than the average of HN commenters) and I think there's a lot to talk about, including
American anti-government and anti-military cultural and political traditions (which are extremely important for American society and history, but also very diverse, and not easy for Americans to find consensus about)
How are those currents different, differently expressed, or absent in other parts of the world?
Civilians and civil society defending themselves against state power on a national level (Americans vs. the U.S. government)
Civilians and civil society defending themselves against state power on an international level (people vs. governments in general)
All of these issues are interesting and can be much more complicated than the simple accounts that we might tend to give of them at first. I don't feel like I have time to do justice to these topics at the moment, but hopefully this thread or a future one will give an opportunity to go further into these things.
I am someone who is clearly in the camp that you criticize (in fact, more than the average of HN commenters) and I think there's a lot to talk about, including
American anti-government and anti-military cultural and political traditions (which are extremely important for American society and history, but also very diverse, and not easy for Americans to find consensus about)
How are those currents different, differently expressed, or absent in other parts of the world?
Civilians and civil society defending themselves against state power on a national level (Americans vs. the U.S. government)
Civilians and civil society defending themselves against state power on an international level (people vs. governments in general)
All of these issues are interesting and can be much more complicated than the simple accounts that we might tend to give of them at first. I don't feel like I have time to do justice to these topics at the moment, but hopefully this thread or a future one will give an opportunity to go further into these things.