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Re:Pop-up bike lanes show that demand exists by coldpie on Friday June 23, 2017 @09:39AM (#14619053)
I actually take the bus most places, I only drive once or twice a week, to the grocery store or so. I have no real skin in this game. In my experience, and in the OP's experience, "share the road" is a dumb, dangerous solution that leaves everyone unhappy. Bikers should refuse to put up with it. Demand real lanes.
Re:Pop-up bike lanes show that demand exists by auxym on Friday June 23, 2017 @09:57AM (#14619172)
The vast majority of advocacy groups do demand real lanes.

The thing, I want to commute to work today. Do I just stay home and yell at politicians until a lane is built? Or do I legally use the existing roadways?

Re:Pop-up bike lanes show that demand exists by coldpie on Friday June 23, 2017 @10:09AM (#14619243)
I'm sorry, I don't have an answer for you. I'm just frustrated that all of these threads end up tilting at the "damn drivers!!!!" windmill instead of blaming the actual problem, which is trying to combine car and bike traffic, which cannot be done on most US roads as currently designed.
Re:Pop-up bike lanes show that demand exists by rhinoceraptor on Friday June 23, 2017 @11:19AM (#14619764)
If we could magically re-do all of the existing infrastructure overnight, then that would be a good solution. But since it's impossible to re-build all roads to have dedicated bike lanes, cyclists will have to use the road at some point.

And once there is the precedent that cyclists ride only in dedicated bike lanes, then you've limited the area that cyclists can ride to dense, affluent areas that have the demand and money for dedicated bike lanes.