Opus 1.2 Released

Re:Opus 1.2 Released by pimeys on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:01PM (#14598992)

I'm having all my music stored as Flac and automatically converted as Opus to my phone. I couldn't be happier to the quality and encoding speed. The only thing I think I should've done different is to use a lower bitrate than 192 kbps to store more music to the memory card.

I reasoned the additional lossy encoding of Bluetooth would be too much with lower bitrates, but now I'm not so sure...

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by shmerl on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:02PM (#14598998)

Yep, I do the same thing. I try to buy music only in FLAC, and then encode to Opus for playback.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by pimeys on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:07PM (#14599034)

Although I'm not that happy with the replay gain support in Opus, so at work and at home I listen to the Flac files.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by StavrosK on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @07:26PM (#14599408)

Does Android support Opus natively? One would hope so, given how open Opus is.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by ac29 on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @07:47PM (#14599505)

Yes, since 5.0: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-forma...

That claims they need to be in a MKV container, but I just use the output of opusenc.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by indolering on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @09:05PM (#14599848)

I heard their implementation was really poor?

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by floatboth on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @06:18AM (#14602472)

Ogg container works, and the extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by derf_ on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @07:43PM (#14599482)

It's required by the Android Compatibility Definition Document (in both MKV and Ogg containers), and it's been there since v5.0: https://source.android.com/compatibility/android-cdd.pdf

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by cyphar on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @07:37PM (#14599460)

You can play them in VLC, but a few years ago I remember that Opus wasn't recognised by Android's "media service" (meaning the native players couldn't even detect the existence of Opus files). It's probably changed since then though.

EDIT: It looks like TFA says that Android does use Opus:

> Opus is now widely deployed on a large range of platforms and devices (including Android, iOS, and all major browsers) and is exposed to untrusted data.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by floatboth on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @06:19AM (#14602474)

Opus in Ogg is natively supported on Android. The extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by cyphar on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @07:46AM (#14602832)

What about matroska (specifically .mka)?

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by Veratyr on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @10:33PM (#14600237)

Android supports the codec but there are issues with the MediaStore and how it deals with containers and file extensions.

My tests (on a Pixel running 7.0 and the O beta) have determined that Opus is usually fine as long as the container and file extensions are both Ogg. I have had a few issues with certain files but I'm not sure why yet, I suspect it's album art or something.

I don't believe Android <= 6.0 supports Opus as audio on its own. The CDD initially only required support for Opus in a Matroska container and I attempted to put an Opus-only Matroska file on my phone and none of the players were able to play it. As of either 6.0 or 7.0 (can't remember which), Ogg support is required though.

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Re:Opus 1.2 Released by pimeys on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @03:20AM (#14601603)

I've been using Rocket Player with my Android 7 phone and it plays Opus just fine. Money well spent to the pro version.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio....

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