Re:Storage ‘not fundamentally needed’ for future power grid,...
by rb808 on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @11:28AM
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> Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing
The good thing is these loads are relatively constant and predictable. One reasons electricity is expensive is the peak loads are much higher than a regular day - you need a power station (or storage) on standby for that hot day when everyone suddenly runs their AC continuously all afternoon.
>Electrified transportation
This is different and a good opportunity that the article talks about. Esp a plugin hybrid could charge on windy sunny days and not charge in the peak times as above.
Re:Storage ‘not fundamentally needed’ for future power grid,...
by adrianN on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @02:31PM
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Huge loads like Aluminium smelters are already "smart" and cooperate with the electricity providers, so there is not as much left to gain there.
Re:Storage ‘not fundamentally needed’ for future power grid,...
by askvictor on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:50PM
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Yes and no; you can't just switch off an aluminium smelter with destroying it; it takes quite a bit of time to ramp it down. I think that for forecast high demand they shut down production in a planned way.
Re:Storage ‘not fundamentally needed’ for future power grid,...
by philipkglass on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @03:47PM
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In the United States, more electricity is used residentially than commercially or industrially (4.8, 4.6, and 3.2 quads respectively in 2016):
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/assets/images/energy/us/...
Re:Storage ‘not fundamentally needed’ for future power grid,...
by pjc50 on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @05:33AM
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This is not nearly upvoted enough.
The mentality is the same as the California water crisis: ignore the big industrial uses like agriculture, instead pester people to run taps for a few seconds less.
I think this misses the elephant in the room. Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing. Electrified transportation. At the place I work, we use more electricity in a single, 19 inch high density server rack than your entire neighborhood. We have rooms full of batteries like the Tesla Powerwall and would be lucky if they could operate for 10 minutes.