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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by delazeur on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @08:51AM (#14594175)
> I would rate Chinese people the most independent-minded group of citizens in the world. Chinese people are incredible at recognizing propaganda and superficial arguments that bear limited practicality.

That's a very weird statement to make.

Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by FabHK on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @01:09PM (#14596385)
Agreed. In my experience, while Chinese (particularly those who've been abroad) are of course well aware of the propaganda they're subject to, they're still influenced by it. Just as people in other countries are.

The defence against that is

* a vibrant, strong, diverse media landscape

* an education that emphasises anti-authoritarian, critical thinking (and not unquestioning adherence to dogma).

In my opinion, most of Europe fares reasonably well on both points. The USA sort of middling. China bad. I'm unsure about today's Russia.

Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by delazeur on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @02:11PM (#14597008)
Overgeneralizing a bit, my experience has been that people tend to be much better at spotting foreign propaganda than domestic propaganda.
Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by sarmstr5 on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @09:16AM (#14594341)
Yeah I would like to know what evidence this is based on. It makes me question the authenticity of the entire comment.
Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by sfifs on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:49PM (#14596181)
Have you been to China or have close Chinese colleagues?