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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by blackbagboys on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:59AM (#14592310)
Why do Chinese leaders prioritize sovereignty over prosperity? Is it because of politics? I think not. It's more to do with culture and history. China has had a long history of being caught in endless cycles of being divided and united. So much that it became the opening sentence of popular novel "Three Kingdoms" long before optimum war. If there's one thing that Chinese people really hate, is to see their homeland being taken away and families separated. I don't think cultures where people did not have this kind of experience can have this feeling.

This is propagandistic pablum. The actual reason is that Hong Kong was a locus of independent political power and the structure of the CCP means any independent centers of power are existential threats to its own power. Therefore all centers of power that are not wholly subordinate to the CCP must be destroyed.

Contrary to popular belief, Chinese (Han) people are never interested in conquering foreign lands. They just want to take back what used to belong.

Try telling this to the Uighur, the Tibetans, the Vietnamese, the Mongols, the native Taiwanese...the Chinese have been just as aggressive and nakedly imperialistic as any other major world power.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by justicezyx on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @01:36AM (#14592423)
> This is propagandistic pablum.

It's one person's propaganda but another's national pride. If you cannot recognize that and frame your argument accordingly, then you are bound to ask for unnecessary arguments.

Is such belief from propaganda? Yes. Does it bear cultral root? Yes.

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Re:The secret negotiations behind the Hong Kong handover by mannykannot on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @08:37AM (#14594087)
National pride is best served by facts, and in this case, there are plenty of facts to choose from.
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