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Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by felipeko on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:03PM (#14590792)
I call it scarcity of resources. You won't see wars and what not when you have humanity with abundance of resources.
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by robotresearcher on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:11PM (#14590837)
a) The problem is more distribution more than abundance.

b) I bet that we'll have wars even if everyone has all they need. I'd like to be wrong.

Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by dragonwriter on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:47PM (#14591010)
> The problem is more distribution more than abundance.

This. Not because scarcity isn't present, but because it is fundamental and inevitable; distribution isn't he thing that can be addressed, and scarcity is not.

Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by felipeko on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:34PM (#14590953)
a) World gdp per capita is less than $18.000, hardly what i would call abundance. We are still a few good decades away from abundance.

b) I bet that rich countries, where people have all they need, will not provoke wars or engage on unprovoked wars (unless for humanitarian reasons).

Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by robotresearcher on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:54PM (#14591031)
The richest country in the world has been at war overseas almost constantly since the end of WWII.
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by felipeko on Monday June 19, 2017 @07:22PM (#14591158)
And it went to war for the following reasons:

a) scarcity of resource (oil) / humanitarian reasons (whichever you prefer to believe)

b) was provoked into it (because of cold war or terrorists)

Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by wcarron on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @12:39AM (#14592239)
This is demonstrably false. You need only look at the actions of our government (e.g. The CIA) to discern that the United States has gone to war (or "military conflicts" or whatever they call them these days) for reasons such as A) financial gain for private persons and companies B) financial gain for politicians C) financial gain for the country D) political gain for individuals E) extending a miltary based hegemony F) moral agendas (e.g the War on Drugs) etc, etc. The United States is by no means some perfect rational actor which engages in war solely for economic reasons or for "self-defense".
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by robotresearcher on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @01:48AM (#14592454)
Those were the declared reasons, yes. But exactly what would you say are the resource and humanitarian gains and to what degree forgivable-due-to-provocation-in-retrospect is, say, the US-Vietnam War?
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by belorn on Monday June 19, 2017 @07:06PM (#14591085)
I recall from primatology lectures that a majority of violence is not triggered by a scarcity of resources but by friction in social ranking. I also recall a lecture by Sapolsky where he talk about this successful peace negotiator which focused on mutual respect, understanding and a feeling of kinship rather than negotiating about borders and resources.
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by Bakary on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @04:26AM (#14592950)
In a book called The Happiness Hypothesis, the author made the interesting claim that violence is often cause by an attack on a person's self-image, and that it was indeed thus heavily linked to social friction.
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by dragonwriter on Monday June 19, 2017 @06:46PM (#14591005)
Scarcity is a universal (more abundance doesn't cure scarcity, it just changes expectations of what is acceptable.)
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by felipeko on Monday June 19, 2017 @07:29PM (#14591181)
Not really. Most people on most developed countries don't have scarcity for water, food, clothes, transport... It wasn't always like that. Things do become more abundant and people will dot not always change expectation on the same amount.
Re:It’s Complicated: Unraveling the mystery of why people ac... by dragonwriter on Monday June 19, 2017 @08:33PM (#14591431)
> Most people on most developed countries don't have scarcity for water, food, clothes, transport

Yes, they do. They may not have what you view as critical shortages, but if thode things weren't scarce, in economic terms, they would be free of cost.

> Things do become more abundant

Yes, but they continue to be scarce.