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Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by coldtea on Saturday June 17, 2017 @06:35PM (#14578035)
Not only Captain America. They had everybody from Horatio Alger to Joseph McCarthy, all the tele-evangelists and their ilk, all their popular movies, books, comics, tv shows etc with overly simplistic morality plays and nationalistic narrative etc. Even the 60s rock n' rollers just added some tamed dissent to an otherwise hook line and sinker adoption of the "american dream", all the way to Rambo, Rocky, Top Gun, and so on.

It's people like HST, Kurt Vonnegut, black musicians and writers, directors like Cassavetes and Kazan and such that embedded a dose of realism to the popular narrative. But anything really mainstream was always 80% sugary propaganda.

Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by tptacek on Sunday June 18, 2017 @03:21AM (#14579436)
Rambo? Rambo is luridly anti-government.
Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by coldtea on Sunday June 18, 2017 @06:39AM (#14580025)
It doesn't have to be pro-government to be pro-US, pro-national interests and pro-national ideology, in other words to promote all the same that those in power promote and evangelize.

On the contrary, "anti-government" is the official party line in an era when even the President (Reagan), in his inaugural address says: "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.""

Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by tptacek on Sunday June 18, 2017 @06:42AM (#14580043)
In the first movie, he kills a bunch of policemen and feels he and his friends have been abandoned by the military.

In the second, the military is actively concealing the existence of live POWs in Vietnam. He ends the movie by threatening a military official.

In neither case can you reasonably call the movie "propaganda", at least not without logic that you could use to connects the dots between any movie, from Bridget Jones Diary to Being John Malkovich, to propaganda.

I'm not arguing that the movies are anti-propaganda. I'd call them neutral in that regard.

Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by bitwize on Sunday June 18, 2017 @06:08AM (#14579926)
First Blood was. The sequels? not so much...
Re:The Artful Propaganda of Soviet Children’s Literature by tptacek on Sunday June 18, 2017 @06:21AM (#14579969)
In Rambo II, the government is actively concealing the existence of Vietnam POWs, and the movie ends with Rambo threatening a government official.