Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by opportune on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:38AM
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That's not what unskilled means in this context. It just means that they are easily replaceable and not specialized. You can have respect for people as individuals while recognizing that the job they do could be done by just about anybody (the definition of unskilled)
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by illumin8 on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:41AM
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A pastry chef is unskilled?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by opportune on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:42AM
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How many employees at WF are pastry chefs and how many are in stocking, orders, cleaning, and manning the register?
I feel like at least half of the average grocery store staff I see are skilled: butchers, fishmongers, cheese and wine managers, and pasty or bakers. Proportion varies with class of grocery: BiLo obviously having fewer than WF.
There's the checkout counter and stock in the back, but I feel like the employed-during-the-day crew definitely has career opportunities.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by illumin8 on Friday June 16, 2017 @07:04PM
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Thank you for saying this. WF needs a half dozen unskilled workers to stock shelves, and about 6 dozen skilled laborers in the trades you mentioned. Do you think a 21-day dry-aged steak can be made by someone that just showed up during a high school job fair with zero training? Would you eat it?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by magic_beans on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:51AM
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It's not that pastry chef's are unskilled, but they are very easily replaceable. It's really difficult for culinary school grads to find work because of the influx.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by illumin8 on Friday June 16, 2017 @07:08PM
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Not true. It's very hard for restaurants to find skilled cooks nowadays because the salaries they are willing to pay are not high enough. When an artisanal pastry chef can open their own business, setup a Stripe account, and make six figure income, you know a restaurant only willing to pay $45K for a skilled chef is going to have a problem...
A pastry chef is to WF what an AWS engineer is to Amazon.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by PeterisP on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:45AM
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IIRC the definition of unskilled labor is one requiring less than a year of training.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by scotchio on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:38AM
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What I mean is you don't necessarily need a college education to work in any of their departments. Not trying to be offensive
Oh well, you know a dozen people working at Whole Foods that have good careers, guess the literal thousands of people working in the stores, filling the shelves, being cashiers, etc., usually being the first ones to be thrown away, overworked and overpressured don't exist then. Only white collar jobs matter after all.
Enjoying your ivory tower I hope?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B
by emodendroket on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:38AM
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So the people stocking the shelves and operating the registers are all highly skilled labor?
Seasonal workers in the FCs literally get only 4 hours of training and are then filling orders. That's the pure definition of unskilled, and a far cry from a pastry chef at WF.