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Re: Tim Cook Says Apple Is Focusing on an Autonomous Car System by mikeash on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @03:09PM (#14547660)
The comparison to Mac OS 9 makes no sense. Apple was dying in the late 90s. The OS was extremely obsolete and the whole company was on the verge of falling over. They needed a big change to survive, and that was OS X, which suddenly gave them a modern OS and made their computers popular in many segments which had previously completely ignored them.

Apple was doing just fine in 2007. OS X was in great shape. They had recently transitioned from the faltering PowerPC CPUs to x86, which revitalized their hardware offerings and opened up a world of new possibilities for users to dual-boot or virtualize other OSes. Their market share was pretty solid, and their share of PC profits was quite high.

You say "stature in the industry" as if there's a single "the industry" that encompasses both PCs and phones. If Apple hadn't done the iPhone then maybe Microsoft or Nokia would have done better, but so what? That wouldn't affect Apple in the PC market. Wikipedia says the top five PC makers are Lenovo, HP, Dell, Asus, and Apple, and as far as I know Apple is the only one with a substantial smartphone business.

Of course Apple wouldn't be nearly as relevant overall in a world where they never produced the iPhone. I don't care about that. I see no reason why the Mac wouldn't be about as relevant in the personal computing space, which is what I care about.

In any case, I'm not just annoyed at the existence of the iPhone, but the nature of it. If the iPhone had been a Mac-like open platform instead of this walled garden bullshit, all of my complaints would go away. I have no problem with mobile per se, I have a problem with pervasive vendor-controlled code signing, not getting root on my own devices, etc.

Re: Tim Cook Says Apple Is Focusing on an Autonomous Car System by DerekL on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @04:34PM (#14548391)
> Of course Apple wouldn't be nearly as relevant overall in a world where they never produced the iPhone. I don't care about that. I see no reason why the Mac wouldn't be about as relevant in the personal computing space, which is what I care about.

Most of Apple's APIs and tools run on and build for both Mac and iPhone. Without the iPhone, Apple would have to pay for that from just what they made from the Mac, so improvements to macOS would come slower than they do now.

Re: Tim Cook Says Apple Is Focusing on an Autonomous Car System by mikeash on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @04:42PM (#14548451)
The pace of Apple's API improvements don't seem to be particularly related to their cash flow, and the pace of improvement on the Mac has not noticeably increased since 2007 (I'd argue it has actually decreased) so I don't buy this.
Re: Tim Cook Says Apple Is Focusing on an Autonomous Car System by charlesism on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @08:27PM (#14549875)

    > improvements to macOS would come slower than they do now.
I'm starting to wonder how many people here even remember what Apple was like 10 years ago. The way macOS has "improved" under Tim I think "the slower, the better". One of the best WWDC moments this year was when Tim announced a maintenance release.