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Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by cylinder on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:36PM (#14540903)
Doesn't this just show something isn't right in the US? Why aren't firms hiring more in their international offices if the cost of employing developers is 3x in the US vs even advanced nations with solid talent?
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by shados on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:49PM (#14541002)
As mentioned, its a pain in the ass to manage all of those offices. Also, the cost of running those offices, with all the different laws you might be unfamiliar with, can be complicated.

I worked for a company that did just that: open an office in Canada in the same timezone as their American HQ to cut cost. The taxes, expenses, and complying with local laws at large scale (think: Quebec language laws) are real, and they almost ended up killing the office because the cost was too high. They absolutely were hiring more in the American office in the end from a pure cost perspective, and using the Canadian one to scale even though it was super expensive to run.

Now, its very likely it was them simply being inefficient and unprepared for it, but it doesn't really matter: its a real issue.

Now in the case of my current employer, we absolutely have international offices where getting head count is much cheaper, but to scale, we need offices everywhere where there's talent, and that includes in the big american metros. In my case, I just moved to get the $$$ of the American offices, that's all :)

Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by coredog64 on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:43PM (#14540953)
Because integrating those offices is a PITA. Your workers in Paris or Lyon aren't going to stay late so that your workers in Mountain View can start the meeting at 9am rather than at 7am.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by eli_gottlieb on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:44PM (#14540965)
Workers in British Columbia, IIRC, are in the same time-zone as Mountain View.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by jstelly on Monday June 12, 2017 @05:42PM (#14541364)
It seems like firms that are large enough to manage multiple offices do exactly that. In the games industry electronic arts is a good example. They have offices in Vancouver, Montreal, and Edmonton (a huge team grown out of the BioWare acquisition) and possibly other places in Canada.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by int_19h on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @12:15AM (#14542827)
Microsoft has a campus in Vancouver (well, Richmond, originally - it moved to downtown Vancouver later) since 2007. There was around 600 people there last year, mostly devs.
Re:Canada's Tech Firms Capitalize On Immigration Anxiety by querulous on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @10:48AM (#14545121)
they do, but the canadians aren't stupid; they move to us jobs for 2x the compensation. the canadian offices are staffed mostly by non-canadians who couldn't get H1Bs or TNs but could qualify for the equivalent canadian visa.