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Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by dsl on Monday June 12, 2017 @12:02PM (#14538322)
NitroKey (https://www.nitrokey.com/) is the non-crappy version of YubiKey.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by dchest on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:12PM (#14540667)
I have two of their U2F and if the OP's problem is sales and support, I'm not really sure Nitrokey are without issues as well:

1) Ordered 2, received 1. Thankfully, support quickly sent the second one once I wrote to them.

2) Now they only work when I plug something else to another port to my Mac (no such problem with Yubikey). No reply since April 29: https://support.nitrokey.com/t/nitrokey-u2f-issues-in-macos-...

Edit: I now noticed they have a different U2F version — the previous one was a card that you fold to make it into a USB dongle.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by jans23 on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @01:11AM (#14600824)
Feedback from Nitrokey (I'm working with them):

1) We are changing our warehouse process, adding a technical QA step, so that such mistakes won't happen anymore. Sorry for the trouble.

2) As you noticed, the former U2F is going to be replaced by a new FIDO U2F device which contains a full USB plug for better reliability, is more durable and has a touch button.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by dchest on Wednesday June 21, 2017 @04:21AM (#14601910)
Great, thank you!
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by tmikaeld on Monday June 12, 2017 @01:38PM (#14539152)
+ It is (fully) open source

- Doesn't support U2F (yet)

- Supports only one password manager [1]

- Recommends using their own password manager (That has a limit of 16 passwords)

[1] https://www.nitrokey.com/documentation/applications#a:passwo...

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by travisby on Monday June 12, 2017 @01:51PM (#14539288)
Unfortunately it's not _fully_ open source. They don't say it anywhere on their webpage, but they use an [OpenPGP Smart Card](https://www.g10code.com/p-card.html) internally, where some of the implementation by ZeitControl isn't open source. g10 has a reference implementation that is fully open source, but there's some additional (timing?) attacks that Zeitcontrol has implemented and cannot release.

Note the NitroKey start is a gnuk implementation and is fully open source. The tamper-resistant models are using the BasicCard with Zeitcontrol software.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by kps on Monday June 12, 2017 @12:25PM (#14538502)
According to that page, the only variant that does U2F does nothing but U2F.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by noja on Monday June 12, 2017 @01:27PM (#14539057)
yeah what is with that? I want all the boxes ticked!
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Yubikey? by tokenizerrr on Monday June 12, 2017 @02:34PM (#14539739)
What is non-crappy about it compared to the YubiKey?