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Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by emodendroket on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:28PM (#14532561)
That is kind of contradicted by the guy in the article, who claims hunter-gatherers kind of had things figured out and were able to get stuff at a steady pace. Although if that's true you have to wonder why most decided to become farmers instead.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by whiddershins on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:58PM (#14532704)
I am under the impression it is much less that "most decided" and much more that agricultural based societies were incredibly effective at displacing hunter gatherer societies.

Some combination of much higher birth rates, ecological destruction, and centralized governments among other factors made agricultural societies more successful in the Darwinian sense.

You see this in the history of the Europeans vs Plains Indians. Very few military successes for the Europeans, but ultimately the Europeans displaced the original inhabitants of the Great Plains almost entirely. The Comanches never "chose" to become agricultural. They were forcefully pushed out over generations.

Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by kobeya on Sunday June 11, 2017 @03:39PM (#14533405)
Agriculture was probably not done by choice. It is incredibly time intensive, and early farming societies had severe problems of malnutrition. BUT it led to population explosions, and was good for the elites, and agricultural societies displaced hunter-gatherers as a result. I wouldn't say "most decided" to become farmers though. More like "a few were forced to become farmers, and their descendants out-numbered and out-competed those who did not adapt."
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by ideasarefun on Sunday June 11, 2017 @07:14PM (#14534330)
I don't know whether this is a great source on this topic, but Jared Diamond wrote an interesting article which expands on what you pointed out. "The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race" http://discovermagazine.com/1987/may/02-the-worst-mistake-in...
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by emodendroket on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:54PM (#14534814)
Say what you will about modern life but I am in no hurry to go back to hunting wild animals and foraging. There are factors to consider besides how healthy the average person is (surely a skewed measure given the unlikelihood of your surviving if you are sickly or weak).

That piece also seems to be somewhat unspecific on what exactly "limiting the population" entails; after all, infanticide, a lack of medical care of any kind, and outright murder are no less available to a farming society, if you really are arguing for such a solution to inequality.

Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by db48x on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:18PM (#14540723)
Yea, let's bring back that good old-time 15% homicide rate. That'll keep everyone equal.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by emodendroket on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:01PM (#14534035)
While agriculture certainly did create social stratification, it's hard to imagine a couple guys in a society of egalitarian hunter-gatherers could force everybody else to go along with a scheme of agriculture. It seems more likely that the elites began to show up after agriculture was established than the other way around.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by kobeya on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:33PM (#14534581)
Yes that is basically what I was saying. It only took one regional climate/ecosystem change to initiate farming, and then one thug to centralize the proceeds of it.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by jeffdavis on Sunday June 11, 2017 @02:07PM (#14532999)
What does that have to do with eating bugs?
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by emodendroket on Sunday June 11, 2017 @05:58PM (#14534018)
I took your post to be claiming that early humans frequently were driven to desperation, and that therefore they must have eaten a lot of insects.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by Can_Not on Sunday June 11, 2017 @07:01PM (#14534270)
Humans still eat insects today, in some cultures this is even a delicacy.
Re:Anthropology professor teaching college students to live ... by emodendroket on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:51PM (#14534620)
That's also true, yes.