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Re:How the Australian government plans to access encrypted m... by barrkel on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:47AM (#14531937)
The only purpose of a gun - a handgun in particular - is to wound and kill people, something civilians have no business doing. That's not the case with encryption.
Re:How the Australian government plans to access encrypted m... by wayn3 on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:50AM (#14531946)
the primary purpose of a gun is to deter possible aggressors from starting trouble with you.

the ultima ratio is to actually use the gun. for 99% of threats, showing it off is good enough.

Re:How the Australian government plans to access encrypted m... by roughcoat on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:58AM (#14531967)
I've used a handgun to signal for help, to find lost people in the woods in Alaska, to hunt, to scare away bears, and for fun. And on a few occasions, I've been very glad to have a handgun with me stateside, because I came quite close to needing to use it to protect myself. Fortunately I was able to negotiate those situations without using force.

Are you a pacifist, incidentally? Can you really think of no valid reason why a citizen might need to wound or kill someone?

Re:How the Australian government plans to access encrypted m... by odonnellryan on Sunday June 11, 2017 @12:00PM (#14532433)
Guns used to be tools, but they aren't in much of the US. That doesn't mean they can't be, but they aren't used as tools, so they've lost a lot of their value.

Yes, if you're hunting, it's a tool.

Re:How the Australian government plans to access encrypted m... by cynicalbastard on Sunday June 11, 2017 @10:28AM (#14532061)
> That's not the case with encryption.

sure it isn't.