Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Climbing World Reels

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by EpicEng on Thursday June 08, 2017 @10:42AM (#14514492)

>You are still racing cars, you are still playing football with the safety gear on (although football players in Australia do not wear helmets, and F1 cars don't have roll cages nor even roofs). Perhaps your analogies are off also ;)

Sure... I wasn't implying that taking part in dangerous sports is something only adrenaline junkies do; I meant to say that doing so _without taking simple safety precautions_ puts you into that category.

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Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by cromulent on Thursday June 08, 2017 @11:57AM (#14515066)

I am trying to explain that there are different classes of climbing philosophically, not just one activity with or without certain safety related items.

"Motor racing without a helmet" = "stupid and pointless", we can probably agree on that.

"Climbing Everest without oxygen" != "Climbing Everest as an adrenaline junkie as I have deliberately foregone a safety related item".

"Free solo" != "Free climbing as an adrenaline junkie as I have deliberately foregone a safety related item".

My family have different risk tolerances and desires than me, but they know me and don't consider me an "adrenaline junkie".

I guess we just disagree :)

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Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by EpicEng on Thursday June 08, 2017 @02:05PM (#14515896)

>"Free solo" != "Free climbing as an adrenaline junkie as I have deliberately foregone a safety related item".

That's the part I don't get though. That said, I'm not a climber and I'm trying to logic my way through it as an outsider with zero experience, so I fully admit I may be wrong.

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