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Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by cosinetau on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:28PM (#14500995)
This product is dangerous to privacy. It's easy to imagine how this data could be exploited if Monica is sold to Facebook, Google, etc.

How are you working to guarantee my data is protected from any manner use outside my own?

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by imron on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @04:34AM (#14504589)
> How are you working to guarantee my data is protected from any manner use outside my own?

From the README on Github:

"We provide a hosted version of this application on https://monicahq.com.

If you prefer to, you can simply clone the repository and set it up yourself on any hosting provider, for free. I'm just asking that you don't try to make money out of it yourself."

So to guarantee the privacy of your data, set it up on your own server (maybe even locally hosted if you're that paranoid) and you're set.

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by mrleinad on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @02:32PM (#14508742)
THIS! I had privacy concerns, but you just blew them away. If I can host this in my own server, I'm sold. HUGE THANKS!
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by confounded on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:35PM (#14501066)
As these things go, the privacy policy is excellent, and can be read in under a minute:

https://monicahq.com/privacy.html

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by cmdkeen on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:00PM (#14501291)
It's not excellent. Nothing about data security, encryption at rest, and a whole load of things that would be covered by GDPR (yes the service is registered in Canada, but GDPR standards should be the benchmark now for what is considered acceptable for anything).

This is an intriguing idea as a concept but feels like it isn't a sufficient focus. The privacy page hasn't been updated in 18 months either, yet the release notes mention encryption at rest (with very little detail) being added in October 16.

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by lucb1e on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:38PM (#14501600)
Just as a data point, this is the first time I ever heard about GDPR. Not sure it's "the minimum acceptable standard for anything".
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by M2Ys4U on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @02:20PM (#14508660)
If you have users in the EU/EEA then you _will_ have to comply, or risk a fine of up to €20,000,000 or 4% of your _global_ turnover (whichever is larger).
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by confounded on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:51PM (#14501724)
It will be if you want to operate in Europe.
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by cosinetau on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:35PM (#14501576)
That is not a good privacy policy. Founder needs to talk to a lawyer, or the EFF.

For instance:

> Monica runs on Linode and I'm the only one, apart from Linode's employees, who has access to those servers.

This speaks to nothing about future use, which is what my question specifically asked.

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by confounded on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:54PM (#14501754)
Good point.
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by schof on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @10:07PM (#14503178)
My question is about this line:

> When you close your account, we will immediately destroy all your personal information and won't keep any backup.

I'd love to hear how you're purging users from your backups, and how long you keep backups.

Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by huac on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @09:00AM (#14505975)
Not loading now.
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by vultour on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @12:36AM (#14503789)
If this bothers you just host it yourself, that's why it's open source
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by cosinetau on Tuesday June 20, 2017 @06:44PM (#14599204)
That's a good solution for someone like me, who can roll my own, but not someone like my parents who have no idea how to do that. That does not bode well for privacy. Your suggestion is half-assed.
Re:Show HN: Monica, an open-source CRM to manage friends and... by stefs on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:37PM (#14501083)
well, i haven't looked too closely, but i guess i'd be ok to run your own if this bugs you too much. there are links to the github repo on the site.