This. I have a Surface Pro 4 and it's garbage for work. I've had two MacBooks, currently use a Win 10 desktop, have a 6 year old iPad, and the Surface is my least favorite device. Physical keyboard doesn't work well on a lap, mediocre touchpad, on screen keyboard only pops up with certain apps, tons of updates, and awful reliability. Surface seem to increase productivity in theory/during demos, but it's a jenky experience in practice.

iPad Pro, even with iOS instead of a full-fledged OS, looks waaaay more appealing.

I'm yet to see any long term review on YouTube that explains the way anyone who finds the SP a terrible experience has so much difficulty. I'm genuine in my interest as it's a leap of faith even though I have been a committed happy SP2 user a long while now. I'm not sure either why if the device is so counterproductive for a individual, why did they not sell or their employer finally relent and provide alternative since the productivity cost would be considerable. The only other common features of such comments, is the similar grass is greener conclusion. This isn't consistent with a actual concerted effort to address a problem, the first impression I get anyhow.

It isn't terrible, it is just...a laptop. It is slow to turn on, slow to login and unlock, it likes to update a lot, it isn't as casual iPad at all. I find myself not using it because my older iPad is just easier to pick up and use...

I really want to use my surface more, it is really nice. Just it straddles the worlds between PC and tablet too much.

It really is not slow to turn on https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6fivf0/surface_pro...

Thanks to you and the parent for sharing your experience. As someone who was looking to buy a Surface Pro, I wonder if I shouldn't.