Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by ng12 on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:30PM
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If you're paying for good journalism why are you using Google search to find it?
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Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by SilasX on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @12:37AM
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Because a) google is better at indexing a given source, and b) every user shouldn't have to build their own search aggregator across the n sites they have privileged access to; that's the role of a search engine (except for it covering all sources not just a few).
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by sowbug on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @01:23AM
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See also Aggregation Theory: https://stratechery.com/2015/aggregation-theory/
There is specific discussion of Google as an example in that article, but the whole article is worth reading.
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by ng12 on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @12:20PM
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Maybe there's an opportunity for Google to partner with subscription sites to index their content for users who own a subscription -- but what should Google do when there's a ~0% chance a site contains useful information for a non-subscriber?
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by mturmon on Monday June 05, 2017 @10:56PM
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If you're running a top-notch search engine, why are you excluding the results I care about most?
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by duskwuff on Monday June 05, 2017 @11:10PM
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Because Google can only index what they can see. As noted in the article, the Googlebot only gets to see the first few paragraphs of WSJ articles, so those pages are less likely to rank on searches.
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by sowbug on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @01:28AM
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Indexing more of the content (which would be possible by providing the full content to web crawlers) seems to violate Google's cloaking guideline as well: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66355
Re:WSJ Ends Google Users' Free Ride, Then Fades in Search Re...
by dragonwriter on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @02:31AM
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It's not excluded. They present less content to Google users and are ranked based on the actual presented content.
If News Corp wants search ads for it's paid service, it can by then like anyone else instead of expecting Google to treat them specially, which is what they are really asking for.