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Re:The great self-esteem con by rimliu on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:17AM (#14486037)
Of course. Social group influences a lot how you perceive yourself. You can only establish a value of something by comparison.
Re:The great self-esteem con by crawfordcomeaux on Monday June 05, 2017 @01:19PM (#14489358)
I'm noticing some language trends in this whole thread worth pointing out:

- In OP, I wrote self-esteem is the root of narcissism, when I really believe it's a potential root. It can also be symptomatic because pretty much everything in the brain can flow both ways, so one person's symptom can be another person's cause.

- We tend to forget the importance of the word "can." I'd rephrase what you wrote as "Social group CAN influence a lot about how you perceive yourself." It doesn't have to.

Also, comparison isn't needed. Here's how I do it:

I recognize a few key facts:

- every person is unique in some way - every unique property of a person reflects something to be learned, even if the lesson is the opposite of said property - neural networks learn and apply learning - we are walking neural networks - the past is changed by observing the present

Therefore, everyone is valuable in some special way, including myself. My self-esteem stems from reminding myself that others' perceptions of my experiences do not define my reality, my value, or my past. Those are all mine to define and nobody else's. I don't need to compare my subjective experience with someone else's in order to value mine.