People in the Bay Area (and many people on HN fit this demographic culturally, if not literally) tend to be ethnocentric. I have met so many people that won't take a company seriously unless it is headquartered locally, including at least 2 people who didn't believe me that Amazon was based in Seattle. There is a huge misunderstanding of the auto industry and since people do not understand it they tend to discredit it. This hubris is largely why Google and Apple attempted to build their own cars, and after failing decided to pursue other routes (Waymo partnering with Chrysler and Apple doing who knows what). There is an incredible arrogance in the Bay Area, and denizens tend to think they are smarter and able to disrupt the rest of the world (much like this https://xkcd.com/1831/).

As HN becomes more popular it inevitably becomes more cliquish. While I commend dang on his typically excellent moderation, it is inevitable that with more people and a voting system that a hivemind effect will develop.

Since I'm sure people will criticize me for being new here, this is not my original account and I have been here for a while.