What is really claimed by the Catalan's government is the right of self-determination, that is the right for people living in Catalonia to decide their future. Spain's government oppose to that right, hence the conflict.

To put in perspective, there have been other situations in the history of humanity where various stakeholders did not agree on rights being granted, sometimes even involving violence or even war. Examples are the right of women to vote or the abolition of slavery.

I hope not. In my opinion, the Catalan separatist movement is clearly not democratic (despite using agitprop equaling self-determination to democracy, which is a fallacy), and often, xenophobic ("Spain robs us"). I hope that once the economy gets fully recovered, nationalist people will go back to a more rational position.

How is "Spain robs us" xenophobic? I don't think when americans, for example say, "washington robs us" that's xenophobic at all. It does xenophobic when it's coupled to antitourist sentiment or excluding people from moving to Catalonia (which I don't doubt it is, at the level of the political party)

> once the economy gets fully recovered.

I guess part of my point is that spain's economy won't recover so long as the entrenched political class that feels like it's entitled to the gains catalonia's relatively performant economy.

The same pattern holds true with the EU writ large. For example the entirely disingenous anti-austerity rhetoric in greece vs. germany: news flash, austerity only hurts the poor when you direct the pain of deficit reduction against the poorest and refuse to give up the sweet deals that fill the pockets of rich politically connected interests.

Any real argument, or your point is just to censor my opinion?