Re:WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United Stat...
by tropo on Thursday June 01, 2017 @10:02PM
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We supposedly can't leave until 2020, but who would enforce that?
There is also the option of staying, but reporting our carbon emissions with alternative facts. Done to an extreme, that means we get the payments.
Re:WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United Stat...
by cmrdporcupine on Friday June 02, 2017 @08:06AM
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What you describe is what everyone is doing anyways. My country, Canada, is "in" the agreement but mere weeks after signing approved a controversial liquid natural gas project in B.C. that just by itself would blow away our ability to meet the Paris agreement commitments completely.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/lng-petronas-...
This was all debated for years, so none of this should come as a surprise to anyone. We went into this eyes WIDE open.
China got a good deal, yeah, because it had leverage: it's the manufacturing capitol of the world. It could very easily have walked away with no commitments at all.
As for developing countries, of course we are going to ship our coal jobs over there - they can't afford to build renewables right now and must bootstrap with cheaper in-country energy stores like coal. Meanwhile we can afford the latter and should not be using dangerous and dirty methods just to save money.
100 billion over many years spread across dozens of countries really isn't that much. This is just another way for Trump to say we should be spending money on the US. We should, but we also have responsibilities to the rest of the world that predate all this stuff. We're part of a global community and he is trying to back out of it.
I seriously suspect his numbers in that last one are off or highly misleading. We should all watch for responses from those in know.