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Re:US quits Paris climate pact by dragonwriter on Thursday June 01, 2017 @04:56PM (#14464628)
> There is no political fix. Only technological ones.

Technological fixes will not be adopted unless climate-related externalities are internalized into transactions, because of the tragedy of the commons. A political fix is a necessary prerequisite to the adoption of any technological fix.

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by fvdessen on Thursday June 01, 2017 @06:34PM (#14465528)
Energy consumption is one of the largest costs of every human activity, there is already incredible incentives for everyone to reduce consumption. Energy efficiency has increased for every country despite the lack of a common political framework. [1]

[1] http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by dllthomas on Thursday June 01, 2017 @09:32PM (#14466757)
But improving efficiency reduces cost, which can sometimes actually increase overall use.

If we're going to see reductions in emissions for economic reasons, we need emissions to cost something.

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by gajjanag on Friday June 02, 2017 @02:12AM (#14467840)
> A political fix is a necessary prerequisite to the adoption of any technological fix.

Political "fixes" are by nature temporary in the scheme of things. Regimes come and go, governments rise and fall, etc. They can possibly serve as useful incentives in the short term to drive certain changes, assuming there is sufficient faith in the longer term stability of the political "fix". Such faith has been shaken due to various reasons.

Technology, on the other hand, does not regress so easily IMHO. A technological advance that is sufficiently compelling - say fusion power for the sake of a dramatic illustration, can make previous "dirtier" technologies obsolete, and price them out even in the presence of improperly calculated externalities.

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by gonvaled on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:55PM (#14465231)
This, very much this.

Another way to put this: the asteroid does not care if your financial markets have factored it in the models or not. It just hits you.

Re:US quits Paris climate pact by daxorid on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:04PM (#14464717)
There are very real physical limits to technological fixes anyway: https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2012/02/the-alternative-energy-ma...
Re:US quits Paris climate pact by amluto on Thursday June 01, 2017 @05:24PM (#14464933)
That site thinks that a source that could produce less than 25% of total foreseeable global demand is worthless. I find this to be a rather strange conclusion. Two sources, each producing 24% of foreseeable global demand, could cut emissions and fuel use by 48%, which would be huge.